Post by PaxPerPotenPost by Fred J. McCallPost by PaxPerPotenPost by george152Post by PaxPerPotenWe measured significant radiation from airbursts 600 miles from Bikini
way back when, Fred. Also a lot of vapor particulate. No matter who is
correct here...A Nuclear detonation anywhere at any level is not in
anybodies best interest. Not to mention that we lost all
Electromagnetic communications for a few hours. Not even VHF/SHF
between ships was functional for a while. Now Strontium 90 infected
milk cows as far away as Wisconsin, Minnesota, the Dakotas and several
other states. It sure didn't get there by UPS truck.
I should include our little trips to Operation Grappel as weather picket
and somewhat closer to the explosions than was good for the crew who
were stood to on deck at the time
I don't know about that, other then I have trouble getting Glasses
frames for all three eyes. I also visited Hiroshima and Nagasaki in
1957-58 and find out ten years later that those places were still fairly
hot and millions had toured it.
Bullshit. People LIVE in those cities and the background radiation in
them is the same as most of the rest of Japan.
Now that is saying a lot. Japan is fighting a losing battle with
contamination of its food supply, water etc. Eventually it will moderate
or get worse due to upcoming disasters.
Now THAT is saying a lot. Not talking about Fukishima, you
intellectually dishonest twat.
Post by PaxPerPotenPost by Fred J. McCallPost by PaxPerPotenThere is a book out about
a Japanese Fishing boat that came under a fallout of nuclear ash
hundreds of miles away from the test site. All eventually died from that
fallout.
Bullshit.
I see you snipped the URL of that ship.
Which is irrelevant to the fact that your statement that "all
eventually died from that fallout" is bullshit.
Post by PaxPerPotenPost by Fred J. McCallFirst, it was a 15MT surface blast on coral, so the
applicability here to anything that might happen in North Korea is
zero (neither side has a 15MT weapon, for starters, North Korea isn't
made of coral, either).
Doesn't make any difference now. North Korea is considering coming to
the negotiation table. Procured by the Russians. Could be that food and
comfort are more desirable then many years of the latter.
What?
Post by PaxPerPotenPost by Fred J. McCallThe fishing boat was about 65 miles out
(remember how I told you the 1 rad/hr radiation plume for a surface
burst would be about 160 miles long for a 300KT blast with 15 knot
winds). The crew did stupid shit like stand out in the falling ash
and eat it. Nobody on the fishing boat died from the fallout.
You should read the official records and the book named after the
ship..Damned near all died and terribly.
Bullshit.
"The crew suffered acute radiation syndrome (ARS) for a number of
weeks after the Bravo test in March. All recovered except for Aikichi
Kuboyama, the boat's chief radioman, who died on September 23, 1954,
from an underlying liver cirrhosis compounded by a secondary hepatitis
C infection."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daigo_Fukury%C5%AB_Maru
"Like the hibakusha, survivors of atomic bombings in Hiroshima and
Nagasaki in 1945, the Lucky Dragon crew were stigmatized because of
the Japanese publics irrational fear of those exposed to radiation
(it was commonly believed to be contagious). The crew tried to stay
quiet about their exposure for a number of decades, beginning with
their discharge from hospital. A number of the crew also had to move
away from their previous places of residence to get a fresh start."
"Former crew members include the 87-year-old, as of 2014, Susumu
Misaki, who opened a tofu shop after the incident."
"Twenty years old at the time, Matashichi Oishi, who is reported to
have licked the mysterious fallout substance which fell on his ship in
March, 1954 as a taste test to ascertain its properties, was 79 years
old in August 2013. After the exposure, he left his hometown to open a
dry cleaning business. Beginning in the 1980s, he frequently gave
talks advocating nuclear disarmament. In 2011, he published a book
titled, "The Day the Sun Rose in the West: The Lucky Dragon and I."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daigo_Fukury%C5%AB_Maru#Health_history_of_crew
Post by PaxPerPotenPost by Fred J. McCallThey
retrieved their fishing gear (that was the several hours out standing
in the fallout) and sailed back to port, where they received medical
treatment. One guy died from Hepatitus C contracted from blood
transfusions.
Wrong! Read the fucking Book written by a US Navy Medical officer that
was in observance. America did nothing to aid these people other then to
observe. Didn't even advise!
Where did I say they were treated BY THE US, you lying dipshit?
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